Great effort!, this stuff is hard to do - so applause for getting something shipped! popped an issue into you issues list.
I sometimes find these tools crash hard when pushed via large memory items, huge blobs of code, long base64 strings etc. Even chrome dev tools crash hard on large WS Messages.
Also perhaps post the video near the top instead of hiding it in the origin paper :), kids like videos these days.
Thank you! And thanks for opening the issue - handling very large memory objects is definitely an area of improvement for Wirebrowser. It’s something I plan to harden as the tool matures.
Good point about the video ;) I’ll surface it more prominently, the whitepaper ended up a bit dense, so having the visual demo earlier probably helps a lot.
Thanks a lot! It started as a small experiment with parts of CDP to solve some real-life debugging problems I kept running into, and it ended up opening workflows I hadn’t expected.
This is very cool. I am a big believer in tools analyzing a sequence of heap snapshots to automate the time-consuming parts of manual debugging.
I am working on doing something similar in C++, where there is an additional obstacle of recreating the objects from a memory snapshot without runtime support.
Thanks! JavaScript snapshots make this feasible because the runtime exposes a complete object graph — types, edges, arrays, strings, everything.
Doing similar work in C++ is on a totally different level: raw memory, no type info, pointer chasing, layout inference... Very curious to hear how you’re
approaching it.
Looks very cool. Wondering what the client-side security researchers will be able to find with that. A friend of mine is developping DomLoggerpp [1] notably to monitor and debug JavaScript sinks.
Thanks! Tools like DomLoggerpp are super interesting for browser security work.
I’ve worked in this area too (e.g., https://github.com/fcavallarin/domdig).
Wirebrowser comes at it from a different angle - no instrumentation, just inspecting the live heap and following how values propagate. Curious to see what people end up exploring with these approaches.
Only had a minute to install, build and use the app; but wow this is great! Thank you for building and showing us Wirebrowser. Are you building this because other tools do not meet your needs? I have not run across any tool(s) that combine all of these features into one package so hoping you all success with this release.
Thanks! Yes - the motivation came from repeatedly switching between DevTools, Burp, and ad-hoc scripts whenever I needed to understand how an object ended up in the heap.
Wirebrowser started as an experiment to unify those workflows and make it possible to follow those values directly instead of stitching together multiple tools. It grew from the pain points I kept running into.
Good point - in theory a full time-travel debugger is more powerful. The practical limitation is that time-travel for JavaScript usually requires instrumenting the code or running inside a custom record/replay environment.
Today, JavaScript doesn’t expose any record/replay mechanism, access to hardware breakpoints, or the internal VM state needed to run execution backwards.
The browser’s debugging API (CDP) also doesn’t provide a way to capture or rewind engine state without modifying the application.
BDHS works within the constraints of zero instrumentation: it relies only on Debugger.paused and heap snapshots, so it can trace where a value originates without altering the code being debugged.
Replay is really impressive - having a record/replay runtime that can capture all the inputs to the JS engine and reproduce execution deterministically is in a completely different category from what CDP exposes. That’s what enables true time-travel debugging.
Wirebrowser sits at the other end of the spectrum: it attaches to any unmodified browser that supports CDP and works directly with the live runtime. The workflows end up being very different, but it’s fascinating to see what becomes possible when the runtime itself participates in the recording.
Great effort!, this stuff is hard to do - so applause for getting something shipped! popped an issue into you issues list.
I sometimes find these tools crash hard when pushed via large memory items, huge blobs of code, long base64 strings etc. Even chrome dev tools crash hard on large WS Messages.
Also perhaps post the video near the top instead of hiding it in the origin paper :), kids like videos these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA5nHk-6UJc
Thank you! And thanks for opening the issue - handling very large memory objects is definitely an area of improvement for Wirebrowser. It’s something I plan to harden as the tool matures.
Good point about the video ;) I’ll surface it more prominently, the whitepaper ended up a bit dense, so having the visual demo earlier probably helps a lot.
Very impressive to see the primitives of CDP be used for such a different DX than what's in existing devtools. Really well done.
Thanks a lot! It started as a small experiment with parts of CDP to solve some real-life debugging problems I kept running into, and it ended up opening workflows I hadn’t expected.
This is very cool. I am a big believer in tools analyzing a sequence of heap snapshots to automate the time-consuming parts of manual debugging.
I am working on doing something similar in C++, where there is an additional obstacle of recreating the objects from a memory snapshot without runtime support.
Thanks! JavaScript snapshots make this feasible because the runtime exposes a complete object graph — types, edges, arrays, strings, everything.
Doing similar work in C++ is on a totally different level: raw memory, no type info, pointer chasing, layout inference... Very curious to hear how you’re approaching it.
Looks very cool. Wondering what the client-side security researchers will be able to find with that. A friend of mine is developping DomLoggerpp [1] notably to monitor and debug JavaScript sinks.
[1] https://github.com/kevin-mizu/domloggerpp
Thanks! Tools like DomLoggerpp are super interesting for browser security work. I’ve worked in this area too (e.g., https://github.com/fcavallarin/domdig).
Wirebrowser comes at it from a different angle - no instrumentation, just inspecting the live heap and following how values propagate. Curious to see what people end up exploring with these approaches.
Only had a minute to install, build and use the app; but wow this is great! Thank you for building and showing us Wirebrowser. Are you building this because other tools do not meet your needs? I have not run across any tool(s) that combine all of these features into one package so hoping you all success with this release.
Thanks! Yes - the motivation came from repeatedly switching between DevTools, Burp, and ad-hoc scripts whenever I needed to understand how an object ended up in the heap.
Wirebrowser started as an experiment to unify those workflows and make it possible to follow those values directly instead of stitching together multiple tools. It grew from the pain points I kept running into.
I kinda needed to see a video to get an idea of what this does. There's one linked at the bottom of the page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA5nHk-6UJc
Nice work!
BDHS seems strictly less powerful than a time travel debugger. You can just set a hardware breakpoint and run backwards until the value is set.
Why not just do proper time travel? Is that absent for Javascript?
Good point - in theory a full time-travel debugger is more powerful. The practical limitation is that time-travel for JavaScript usually requires instrumenting the code or running inside a custom record/replay environment. Today, JavaScript doesn’t expose any record/replay mechanism, access to hardware breakpoints, or the internal VM state needed to run execution backwards.
The browser’s debugging API (CDP) also doesn’t provide a way to capture or rewind engine state without modifying the application.
BDHS works within the constraints of zero instrumentation: it relies only on Debugger.paused and heap snapshots, so it can trace where a value originates without altering the code being debugged.
We actually built a full-blown time travel debugger for Javascript at Replay.io:
- https://www.replay.io/devtools
Replay is really impressive - having a record/replay runtime that can capture all the inputs to the JS engine and reproduce execution deterministically is in a completely different category from what CDP exposes. That’s what enables true time-travel debugging.
Wirebrowser sits at the other end of the spectrum: it attaches to any unmodified browser that supports CDP and works directly with the live runtime. The workflows end up being very different, but it’s fascinating to see what becomes possible when the runtime itself participates in the recording.