OpenAI is the only Big AI player who has been unable to train a model from scratch going on two years (since Ilya left) the 5 series is refinement of 4
But please, do go on about who's behind, specifically can you clarify how you see them as multiple iterations behind and why the Waymo world model, AlphaGo/Fold, MedGemma, and the many other models they create don't seem to count towards this?
Ive found gemini to have the best vision by far.
Probably true.
Not sure about “by far”. But probably best.
It processes symbolic (nok programming) graphs significantly better than models not named opus 4.X for X>=5.
Haven't tested 4.6 for my workflow. Will report if its so good that im jobless on monday
Fear, too much to lose.
Google would have been broken up a long time ago if they released Gemini much earlier than OpenAI.
Gemini 3 is so new, that it's still in preview
Just because two big AI announced new models this week doesn't mean Google is behind. Gemini 3 isn't even 2 months old
Gemini is used in a lot of agentic setups. It's my primary.
Gemini users don't act like a cult like Claude users
Also look at how Google is now selling their TPU, everyone wants that more than Nvidia chips now, but only a very select few will ever get them
Gemini 3 is in preview and it is pretty clearly behind multiple iterations for OAI and Ant.
It may even be behind open source at this point.
Seem telling.
Gemini is used in agentic setups by literally dozens of people. Dozens!
OpenAI is the only Big AI player who has been unable to train a model from scratch going on two years (since Ilya left) the 5 series is refinement of 4
But please, do go on about who's behind, specifically can you clarify how you see them as multiple iterations behind and why the Waymo world model, AlphaGo/Fold, MedGemma, and the many other models they create don't seem to count towards this?
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