> "The prosecution claimed Sanchez moved the zines so they wouldn’t incriminate his wife, who attended a protest outside the Prairieland immigration detention center near Dallas, where a police officer was wounded by gunfire."
The "Texas man" in question was involved in evidence tampering in a case that involved the shooting of a police officer. The title here makes it sound like simply moving paper around is against the law.
It’s still a flimsy basis for the case. He didn’t attend the protest nor even knew about it. The motivation wasn’t proven, it’s all in the prosecution’s head for all we know.
I would think that a coverup should always be treated as slightly worse than the thing being covered up. Because of general "don't design systems with perverse incentives" principles.
"Prosecutors said that the group launched a premeditated terror attack on the detention facility inspired by antifa ideology, by setting off fireworks, vandalizing property, and shooting at police officers who responded. One officer was struck in the neck with a bullet and survived."
Only in the case that you can prove both thing and intent to cover up thing beyond a reasonable doubt. And in that case since you've got both convictions then covering it up only needs to carry a small penalty (relative to thing).
If you don't have to prove thing then you end up with a situation where all sorts of mundane actions can be construed as covering something up.
The thing being covered up here is being in the general area when someone else committed a crime. I'm not seeing how 30 years lines up with slightly worse than that.
"Involved" the shooting of a police officer in the loosest possible sense. If the guy's wife had any relation at all with the shooting, it would be explicit in the article.
I recommend reading the whole thing to find the relevant bits. The judge says he is sentencing based on thought crime.
> U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor said he intended to “send a message to anyone who shares a similar ideology.”
> The following can be attributed to Freedom of the Press Foundation (FPF) Chief of Advocacy Seth Stern:
“If prosecutors are correct that Sanchez moved zines because he feared they’d try to use them against his wife, that’s a commentary on prosecutors’ lawlessness, not Sanchez’s. Under the First Amendment, possessing literature cannot be criminal, so what legitimate evidence could he possibly have been concealing? Political zines like those Sanchez possessed are no different from the pro-Revolution pamphlets this country’s founders had in mind when they drafted the First Amendment’s press clause.
“Sanchez’s case is the latest example of the Trump administration grasping at any legal straws it can to criminalize disfavored ideologies and writings, from conflating dissent with terrorism to deporting immigrants who report on protests or criticize wars the U.S. bankrolls. Americans should not make the mistake of believing Sanchez’s sentence only threatens immigrants, leftists, or so-called Antifa members — they’re just the low-hanging fruit, not the end game.”
From linked https://freedes.net/jun-23rd-2026-press-release/ : "Sanchez Estrada, a 39-year-old artist, was found guilty on March 13, 2026, alongside eight codefendants who participated in an anti-ICE protest at the controversial Alvarado ICE detention facility. Under the auspices of “National Security Presidential Memorandum-7,” which was issued after the killing of Christian nationalist influencer Charlie Kirk, Sanchez Estrada was federally charged with “corruptly concealing a document or record” for moving a box of zines the day after the protest. Although he was not present at the protest, nor did he know about it, prosecutors argued that the content of the literature made it evidence of the defendants’ material support for terrorism, and shockingly alleged that the decision to move the box was a conspiracy between Sanchez Estrada and his wife."
Very .. British approach to linking people to "terrorism" on the flimsiest pretext.
>(h) The Attorney General shall issue specific guidance that ensures domestic terrorism priorities include politically motivated terrorist acts such as organized doxing campaigns, swatting, rioting, looting, trespass, assault, destruction of property, threats of violence, and civil disorder. This guidance shall also include an identification of any behaviors, fact patterns, recurrent motivations, or other indicia common to organizations and entities that coordinate these acts in order to direct efforts to identify and prevent potential violent activity.
The prosecutor's description of the "ICE protest" is "setting off fireworks, vandalizing property, and shooting at police officers who responded. One officer was struck in the neck with a bullet and survived.".
Assuming the quoted source can be trusted then we've got a conspiracy without knowledge of the thing being conspired about plus a blatantly unconstitutional line of argument regarding political views (either held or written take your pick). Last I checked creating a pamphlet about how awesome and amazing Bin Laden was qualified as protected speech.
What difference does it make? The point being that nobody should be sentenced for transporting pamphlets, regardless of what's in them. And the 30 year sentence? This is absurd.
I don't think they're necessarily afraid of what's in those pamphlets. I think they're trying to make people afraid to dissent, and I have to say they're having some success at it.
It doesn't matter if it was a gardening monthly, the charge was basically that his girlfriend was arrested and asked him to move it, and, something something terrorism.
Feminist culture coming out of the 70s also incorporates many of the same themes.
The first one at the zine link, "Moral Revolution - Creating new values, undermining oppression, and connecting across difference" by Kriti Sharma is quite good.
The article attempts to frame this as a speech issue but isn't it actually some sort of obstruction or concealing violation? But what was even the point? The pamphlets were never going to be the smoking gun.
Also since when does obstruction net you 30 years? And apparently the judge openly made a statement indicating unconstitutional bias on his part in court. So I guess the entire thing is a farce meant to intimidate the average joe.
> And apparently the judge openly made a statement indicating unconstitutional bias on his part in court. So I guess the entire thing is a farce meant to intimidate the average joe.
Yeah, the judge is well aware that every court this case can be appealed to already agrees with him. The legal arguments and the facts of the case are causally disconnected from the outcome.
Misleading title. The relevant sentence is this:
> "The prosecution claimed Sanchez moved the zines so they wouldn’t incriminate his wife, who attended a protest outside the Prairieland immigration detention center near Dallas, where a police officer was wounded by gunfire."
The "Texas man" in question was involved in evidence tampering in a case that involved the shooting of a police officer. The title here makes it sound like simply moving paper around is against the law.
It’s still a flimsy basis for the case. He didn’t attend the protest nor even knew about it. The motivation wasn’t proven, it’s all in the prosecution’s head for all we know.
And even so, why on Earth would tampering with evidence warrant 30 years in prison? That is inhumane.
They aren't a cop.
I would think that a coverup should always be treated as slightly worse than the thing being covered up. Because of general "don't design systems with perverse incentives" principles.
What is the thing being covered up that is worth 30 years in prison?
"Prosecutors said that the group launched a premeditated terror attack on the detention facility inspired by antifa ideology, by setting off fireworks, vandalizing property, and shooting at police officers who responded. One officer was struck in the neck with a bullet and survived."
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/ice-detention-attack-defe...
Only in the case that you can prove both thing and intent to cover up thing beyond a reasonable doubt. And in that case since you've got both convictions then covering it up only needs to carry a small penalty (relative to thing).
If you don't have to prove thing then you end up with a situation where all sorts of mundane actions can be construed as covering something up.
The thing being covered up here is being in the general area when someone else committed a crime. I'm not seeing how 30 years lines up with slightly worse than that.
I guess Guilt By Association is the law of the land once a cop is shot.
"Involved" the shooting of a police officer in the loosest possible sense. If the guy's wife had any relation at all with the shooting, it would be explicit in the article.
> would be explicit in the article.
This is blatantly an advocacy piece, so that's not a valid assumption.
I recommend reading the whole thing to find the relevant bits. The judge says he is sentencing based on thought crime.
> U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor said he intended to “send a message to anyone who shares a similar ideology.”
> The following can be attributed to Freedom of the Press Foundation (FPF) Chief of Advocacy Seth Stern:
> The judge says he is sentencing based on thought crime.
> Under the First Amendment, possessing literature cannot be criminal
The existence of hate crime laws in the US says otherwise - political motivation to a crime has long been a component in sentencing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime_laws_in_the_United_...
I understand your inference but I don't think we know enough to conclude that with the information here, especially judging by other comments.
We don't know if he was truly involved in any kind of evidence tampering, if he was prosecuted for it, or something else.
> was involved in evidence tampering in a case that involved the shooting of a police officer
Did the zines shoot the police officer? Or was the police officer shot with the zines?
Evidence of what?
They really are cracking down on those protestors, jeez... Makes you wonder how much money is rolling in the ICE-Private prison system relationship.
Anyone got the actual indictment?
From linked https://freedes.net/jun-23rd-2026-press-release/ : "Sanchez Estrada, a 39-year-old artist, was found guilty on March 13, 2026, alongside eight codefendants who participated in an anti-ICE protest at the controversial Alvarado ICE detention facility. Under the auspices of “National Security Presidential Memorandum-7,” which was issued after the killing of Christian nationalist influencer Charlie Kirk, Sanchez Estrada was federally charged with “corruptly concealing a document or record” for moving a box of zines the day after the protest. Although he was not present at the protest, nor did he know about it, prosecutors argued that the content of the literature made it evidence of the defendants’ material support for terrorism, and shockingly alleged that the decision to move the box was a conspiracy between Sanchez Estrada and his wife."
Very .. British approach to linking people to "terrorism" on the flimsiest pretext.
Link to "National Security Memorandum-7" for reference: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/coun...
Example quote:
>(h) The Attorney General shall issue specific guidance that ensures domestic terrorism priorities include politically motivated terrorist acts such as organized doxing campaigns, swatting, rioting, looting, trespass, assault, destruction of property, threats of violence, and civil disorder. This guidance shall also include an identification of any behaviors, fact patterns, recurrent motivations, or other indicia common to organizations and entities that coordinate these acts in order to direct efforts to identify and prevent potential violent activity.
> politically motivated terrorist acts such as ... organized doxing campaigns
> politically motivated terrorist acts such as ... civil disorder
I didn't realize the bar for terrorism had fallen so low.
The prosecutor's description of the "ICE protest" is "setting off fireworks, vandalizing property, and shooting at police officers who responded. One officer was struck in the neck with a bullet and survived.".
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/ice-detention-attack-defe...
> nor did he know about it
I'm not loving this turn of phrase. Seems very Weasel-worded. Did not know about it according to who? I think we need a better news source.
what difference does it make? He is sentenced to go to jail for nearly half a lifetime for transporting a box of magazines. This is insane.
It's a press release, i.e. put out on his behalf by his defenders.
Very US approach.
This seems to be the PR piece around the indictment: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/antifa-cell-members-ind...
Assuming the quoted source can be trusted then we've got a conspiracy without knowledge of the thing being conspired about plus a blatantly unconstitutional line of argument regarding political views (either held or written take your pick). Last I checked creating a pamphlet about how awesome and amazing Bin Laden was qualified as protected speech.
land of the unfree
It's federal, a democratic president can pardon them
May I see the zine?
What difference does it make? The point being that nobody should be sentenced for transporting pamphlets, regardless of what's in them. And the 30 year sentence? This is absurd.
Because we should be able to examine the evidence ourselves. It would let us, as a free people, decide whether this was overreach or valid.
I wanna see what the administration is so afraid of.
I don't think they're necessarily afraid of what's in those pamphlets. I think they're trying to make people afraid to dissent, and I have to say they're having some success at it.
I want to see the zine(s) so I can duplicate them and publish them at Kozubik.com.
It doesn't matter if it was a gardening monthly, the charge was basically that his girlfriend was arrested and asked him to move it, and, something something terrorism.
Wikipedia has an image of a few https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention...
There are some pretty standard anarchist / anti-government like zines.
You can find them on the various zine aggregators like: https://guides.library.illinois.edu/zines/online
Feminist culture coming out of the 70s also incorporates many of the same themes. The first one at the zine link, "Moral Revolution - Creating new values, undermining oppression, and connecting across difference" by Kriti Sharma is quite good.
A zine about anarchy, apparently. But I can't find any details.
Yes, but it will cost you a 10 stretch.
I'd like to say something.
But now that they are rounding people up, and Hacker News can be scraped and User Id's crosschecked with AI surveillance to dox.
I'm actually fearful, the war on free speech is working.
Strange that it has just occurred to you that HN is being mined.
not 'just'.
but someone being jailed for having a 'zine', is really a new level. nobody is safe.
Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48653311
The top comment there is so illuminating. The National Lawyers Guild declaring that these defendants werent even allowed to mount a real defense!
This sounds like an incredible shame upon America, mostly. I hope many of these sentences are pardoned by a future president.
The article attempts to frame this as a speech issue but isn't it actually some sort of obstruction or concealing violation? But what was even the point? The pamphlets were never going to be the smoking gun.
Also since when does obstruction net you 30 years? And apparently the judge openly made a statement indicating unconstitutional bias on his part in court. So I guess the entire thing is a farce meant to intimidate the average joe.
Here's an older article, talking about how the reason the authorities found this person was because one of the other defendants called him from jail to ask him to remove things: https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-busted-anti-government-anti-t...
I would expect that at that point it ought to stop mattering whether the evidence being hidden actually would have been useful evidence.
Thanks to you pointing that out this case has now managed to set a personal record for simultaneous level of disgust I hold for all parties involved.
> And apparently the judge openly made a statement indicating unconstitutional bias on his part in court. So I guess the entire thing is a farce meant to intimidate the average joe.
Yeah, the judge is well aware that every court this case can be appealed to already agrees with him. The legal arguments and the facts of the case are causally disconnected from the outcome.
Meanwhile, the Epstein files continue to be ignored.
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The person being sentenced was not involved in any way based on this information.
You commented on this thread! You must be involved! Prison for you.
But is anyone you know going to be within the vicinity of a crime being committed? That'll be 30 years