I know the ACLU is involved, but for crying out loud, the very first thing they should have done after the first visit was call a lawyer, before he even got on a plane to come home.
Huh. They did sort of post it in their article, didn't you see? Here it is below.
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The email he sent had the subject line "What's next." Streever called Lyons a "monstrous human being" and predicted the ICE leader would "go down in history as America's Reinhard Heydrich, the butcher" — a reference to the Nazi official considered to be one of the architects of the Holocaust.
"The way you are protecting the obvious execution in Minnesota, even as we see the videos, will lead to your downfall. Even Trump will turn on you before the end, and you will be a sad, despised man who eats himself alive with shame at your own pathetic weakness.
Photos of Renée Macklin Good and Alex Pretti are seen among flowers and messages at the makeshift memorial for Pretti, set up in the area where he was shot and killed by federal immigration agents, in Minneapolis.
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"You will never know peace. You will seek to lose yourself, to escape the burden of knowing the truth about yourself. But wherever you go, you will find yourself. You will torment yourself until your last day on Earth," the email read.
I can understand there are acceptable reasons other than intimidation to check on people sending letters like this, but this absolutely is non-violent criticism.
There is no acceptable reason to "check on" him for it. It is political criticism written in an attention gathering way is all. Odds are that a standard critical message would never gain the mind's attention, so people have to get creative.
Also, for better or worse, the "check" these days allegedly happens more commonly by hacking into the person's devices to monitor them for a while.
You know that. I know that. But that sort of identify and harass anyone who is a thorn in your side or otherwise noteworthy for a bad reason workflow is absolutely the status quo in government from the highest and mightiest federal agencies down to your local permitting office. These people are living in a filter bubble running organizations staffed by people from the same filter bubble. They don't understand what they're doing is even wrong.
People are consistently surprised when the government doesn't operate exactly according to the letter of the law. There are ample opportunities to learn this before you get to this point. Jaywalking may be illegal but people do it right in front of a cop and get away with it. Likewise plenty of things that are perfectly legal attract law enforcement attention. If you asked 100 people on the street if that letter constitutes a threat, I believe that 5-10% would say yes, so sending something like that is definitely asking for trouble. And yes, I'm victim-blaming, because the victim is partially to blame.
That may be so, but it's unlikely that a jury would find him guilty. Moreover, those 5-10% would probably not be able to narrow or support their allegation if probed.
The man's right to petition his government was harmed. And did he have to petition in this way? Yes, he absolutely did, for they listen to nothing else.
I know the ACLU is involved, but for crying out loud, the very first thing they should have done after the first visit was call a lawyer, before he even got on a plane to come home.
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Huh. They did sort of post it in their article, didn't you see? Here it is below.
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The email he sent had the subject line "What's next." Streever called Lyons a "monstrous human being" and predicted the ICE leader would "go down in history as America's Reinhard Heydrich, the butcher" — a reference to the Nazi official considered to be one of the architects of the Holocaust.
"The way you are protecting the obvious execution in Minnesota, even as we see the videos, will lead to your downfall. Even Trump will turn on you before the end, and you will be a sad, despised man who eats himself alive with shame at your own pathetic weakness.
Photos of Renée Macklin Good and Alex Pretti are seen among flowers and messages at the makeshift memorial for Pretti, set up in the area where he was shot and killed by federal immigration agents, in Minneapolis. Charly Triballeau/AFP via Getty Images
"You will never know peace. You will seek to lose yourself, to escape the burden of knowing the truth about yourself. But wherever you go, you will find yourself. You will torment yourself until your last day on Earth," the email read.
If they did public sympathy would evaporate, which defeats the purpose of their involvement.
Go back and read the article because it's in there.
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I can understand there are acceptable reasons other than intimidation to check on people sending letters like this, but this absolutely is non-violent criticism.
There is no acceptable reason to "check on" him for it. It is political criticism written in an attention gathering way is all. Odds are that a standard critical message would never gain the mind's attention, so people have to get creative.
Also, for better or worse, the "check" these days allegedly happens more commonly by hacking into the person's devices to monitor them for a while.
>There is no acceptable reason to...
You know that. I know that. But that sort of identify and harass anyone who is a thorn in your side or otherwise noteworthy for a bad reason workflow is absolutely the status quo in government from the highest and mightiest federal agencies down to your local permitting office. These people are living in a filter bubble running organizations staffed by people from the same filter bubble. They don't understand what they're doing is even wrong.
People are consistently surprised when the government doesn't operate exactly according to the letter of the law. There are ample opportunities to learn this before you get to this point. Jaywalking may be illegal but people do it right in front of a cop and get away with it. Likewise plenty of things that are perfectly legal attract law enforcement attention. If you asked 100 people on the street if that letter constitutes a threat, I believe that 5-10% would say yes, so sending something like that is definitely asking for trouble. And yes, I'm victim-blaming, because the victim is partially to blame.
That may be so, but it's unlikely that a jury would find him guilty. Moreover, those 5-10% would probably not be able to narrow or support their allegation if probed.
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It is not a threat. All else is legally allowed.
The man's right to petition his government was harmed. And did he have to petition in this way? Yes, he absolutely did, for they listen to nothing else.
Where's the threat that would necessitate a visit? It's not like he had a pizza delivered to the official's home.